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Opps, sorry, I came home from work at 1:30 this morning and decided to go online and be the first to congratulate democrats on their earth shattering victory in Georgia. This was going to be the one to turn the tide, a referendum on the lousy Trump presidency, I mean it was worth it to spend 50 million dollars on this one because this was the beginning of the end for Trump and Republicans.......oops.

Well um, ah,...good for you dems you went all in, you gave it your all, have a nice participation ribbon, you invented them so give one to yourselves for showing up. Nice job, your mommies are proud of you.

Drum roll please.......the envelope.....Ladies and Gentlemen, the special elections now are.....wait for it.......Republicans 5 democrats O. Bummer. I demand a recount. Those F**king Russians, those goddamn f**king Russians have now changed the vote tallies in Georgia, is there no end to their evil?

Keep the faith, there has just gotta be an election you can win, there just has to be. Somewhere, somehow I have total confidence that voters will embrace your racist, dividing, political correctness, isis loving ways, somewhere somehow you just have to win some day you just have to, the odds are in your favor.

Just take heart in knowing that Trump loves all his little children, even the whiners. May the Trump be with you.

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2020 looms like the Russia abuse of power probe!

So many republicants saying there's no collusion yet there's obstruction n abuse of power that's kinda on the table that's being investigated!

Republicants want the rest of us to look the other way because we should be holding Donald Duck to a lower standard because they are still reeling because Hillary and obama are not "LOCKED UP!" Pretty sad that the republicants didn't have any healthcare bill ready to go after b*tching about how bad the ACA care was the past 8 yrs! At least obama had a plan passed!

I don't personally think that Donald will get another 4 yrs! He won't get shit passed then either! Is he really gonna bring back coal miner jobs?? Nah he just wanted voted in so he could get rid of their regulations! He knows that natural gas is the way to go now! I doubt he's gonnget much done between now n 2018 midterms! Some repubtards are gonna lose some seats! Eventually his presidency will come crumbling down around him and he will self destruct!

It wouldn't be smart to fire mueller too that would be like political suicide and makes trump look even more guilty than he already is!



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I don't see any indication that the Democrats, as a party at least, have yet realized why they started losing to begin with, and why Trump won in the way that he did.

My observation is that for very long time now, both the Republicans and the Democrats, have been basing their push for votes on trying to tap into how upset the voters are with the OTHER GUYS. It's kind of like hoping to get laid, because the babe you have the hots for, is mad at their current mate: just because they want to smack them in the face, doesn't mean they actively LIKE YOU.

Right now, the difference between the two main parties that I see, is that one of them is offering NO ideas for how to improve things (the Democrats), and the other is offering VERY BAD IDEAS about what to do. In general, people want action of some kind, so they are going for the only people who are offering TO act.

That's why the Republican supporters don't seem to care that their leaders are lying to them even more than they saw Hillary and the Democrats as lying. As long as the choice is between someone who lies, but pretends they can fix everything, and someone who lies, but seems to have nothing else to say than the other side is lying, people are going to pick the liars who have a plan, even if they don't entirely like the plan.

That's why the Republicans DIDN'T win, when they first began their Anti campaign, a couple of decades back. They kept saying "Democrats LIE! Put us in charge, we be sure to do absolutely nothing." And them wondered why voters didn't surge to the polls for them.

Trump proved that lying like crazy, but giving the impression that he is going to act energetically, DOES cause people to vote for you, especially when your opponents have mindlessly adopted your own failed strategy of years past.

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That's why the Republicans DIDN'T win, when they first began their Anti campaign, a couple of decades back. They kept saying "Democrats LIE! Put us in charge, we be sure to do absolutely nothing." And them wondered why voters didn't surge to the polls for them.


What's interesting is that part of the reason Handel won in Georgia is because attack ads work better. Sure, there's also the fact that it had been Republican controlled since 1979. And there's also the fact that the guy running against her didn't live in the district and has zero experience. But he tried to play nice in a time where no one is playing nice, and he lost.

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She wasn't a very good choice and won despite that. Democraps better not f**k with us; you won't win!
On another note, she will be running again next year to keep it that seat.

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Trump's approval rating continues to fall. He is widely hated and becoming more hated each and every day. But all the Democrats can do is provide a home base for the far-far-right-wing Deep State to attack Russia and launch World War III.

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But the polls said

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Quote from haslefree:
She wasn't a very good choice and won despite that. Democraps better not f**k with us; you won't win!
On another note, she will be running again next year to keep it that seat.


In many parts of the country, the American people are in the streets by the millions demanding that America help ISIS win the war in Syria. In other parts of the country, the American people are in the streets in the millions demanding that Trump and the Republicans remove their health care so that a tiny gaggle of billionaires can get $1 trillion in tax cuts. Everywhere, Americans are in the streets by the millions demanding that killer-cops continue on their rampage of killing Americans with impunity.

In other words, there is no real support for any of the widely-hated agenda of the increasingly-hated Donald Trump and the Republicans. If the Democrats didn't have exactly the same agenda, they would win easily.



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Quote from condor_0000:
Trump's approval rating continues to fall. He is widely hated and becoming more hated each and every day. But all the Democrats can do is provide a home base for the far-far-right-wing Deep State to attack Russia and launch World War III.


what poll rasmussen has him at 50% approval, that's amazing

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what poll rasmussen has him at 50% approval, that's amazing


In many parts of the country, the American people are in the streets by the millions demanding that America help ISIS win the war in Syria. In other parts of the country, the American people are in the streets in the millions demanding that Trump and the Republicans remove their health care so that a tiny gaggle of billionaires can get $1 trillion in tax cuts. Everywhere, Americans are in the streets by the millions demanding that killer-cops continue on their rampage of killing Americans with impunity.

In other words, there is no real support for any of the widely-hated agenda of the increasingly-hated Donald Trump and the Republicans. If the Democrats didn't have exactly the same agenda, they would win easily.

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(CNN)President Donald Trump's job approval rating has dropped to 36% due to Americans' negative reaction to his handling of the Russia investigations, a new CBS News poll has found.
When CBS last polled Trump's job approval rating in late April, his approval rating was 41%. The drop is partially due to his dwindling support among Republicans.

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Back in January, Trump took a very public victory lap when Ford decided to scrap plans to build a $1.6 billion manufacturing facility in Mexico and invest in its Michigan facilities instead (we discussed it here: Trump Takes Victory Lap After Ford Cancels $1.6 Billion Mexican Expansion Plan As "Vote Of Confidence" In President-Elect).

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This incremental investment in Flat Rock Assembly Plant comes from $1.6 billion the company previously had planned to invest in a new plant in Mexico.

“I am thrilled that we have been able to secure additional UAW-Ford jobs for American workers,” said Jimmy Settles, UAW vice president, National Ford Department. “The men and women of Flat Rock Assembly have shown a great commitment to manufacturing quality products, and we look forward to their continued success with a new generation of high-tech vehicles.”



But, as Ford points out today, Trump's victory lap may have been premature as one of the first strategic actions taken by the company's new CEO, Jim Hackett, will be to relocate the company's 'Focus' production to China rather than Mexico.

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Opps, sorry, I came home from work at 1:30 this morning and decided to go online and be the first to congratulate democrats on their earth shattering victory in Georgia. This was going to be the one to turn the tide, a referendum on the lousy Trump presidency, I mean it was worth it to spend 50 million dollars on this one because this was the beginning of the end for Trump and Republicans.......oops.

Well um, ah,...good for you dems you went all in, you gave it your all, have a nice participation ribbon, you invented them so give one to yourselves for showing up. Nice job, your mommies are proud of you.

Drum roll please.......the envelope.....Ladies and Gentlemen, the special elections now are.....wait for it.......Republicans 5 democrats O. Bummer. I demand a recount. Those F**king Russians, those goddamn f**king Russians have now changed the vote tallies in Georgia, is there no end to their evil?

Keep the faith, there has just gotta be an election you can win, there just has to be. Somewhere, somehow I have total confidence that voters will embrace your racist, dividing, political correctness, isis loving ways, somewhere somehow you just have to win some day you just have to, the odds are in your favor.

Just take heart in knowing that Trump loves all his little children, even the whiners. May the Trump be with you.


So the Klan prevailed in Georgia , of all places..

Have you heard the news? They recently discovered that water is wet.

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What's interesting is that part of the reason Handel won in Georgia is because attack ads work better. Sure, there's also the fact that it had been Republican controlled since 1979. And there's also the fact that the guy running against her didn't live in the district and has zero experience. But he tried to play nice in a time where no one is playing nice, and he lost.


and one more fact; Price won the seat by 23 percentage points in 2016.

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Maybe time for a little humility you libbys. What does it take for you to realize that nobody wants what you're selling?




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so, give us some of the greatest accomplishment of a republican or a conservative in the last 20 years:

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Maybe time for a little humility you libbys. What does it take for you to realize that nobody wants what you're selling?




What the Democrats are selling is the same disgusting, everything-for-the-super-rich, warmongering, police-state, right-wing program as the Republicans. As a result, the decent members of society are abandoning the Democrats as being utterly useless, while the dregs and deplorables of society are eagerly coming out to vote for their beloved Republicans. That's why, despite the fact that the population is overwhelmingly working-class (i.e., leftist), the far-right is winning elections.



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I don't see any indication that the Democrats, as a party at least, have yet realized why they started losing to begin with, and why Trump won in the way that he did.

My observation is that for very long time now, both the Republicans and the Democrats, have been basing their push for votes on trying to tap into how upset the voters are with the OTHER GUYS. It's kind of like hoping to get laid, because the babe you have the hots for, is mad at their current mate: just because they want to smack them in the face, doesn't mean they actively LIKE YOU.

Right now, the difference between the two main parties that I see, is that one of them is offering NO ideas for how to improve things (the Democrats), and the other is offering VERY BAD IDEAS about what to do. In general, people want action of some kind, so they are going for the only people who are offering TO act.

That's why the Republican supporters don't seem to care that their leaders are lying to them even more than they saw Hillary and the Democrats as lying. As long as the choice is between someone who lies, but pretends they can fix everything, and someone who lies, but seems to have nothing else to say than the other side is lying, people are going to pick the liars who have a plan, even if they don't entirely like the plan.

That's why the Republicans DIDN'T win, when they first began their Anti campaign, a couple of decades back. They kept saying "Democrats LIE! Put us in charge, we be sure to do absolutely nothing." And them wondered why voters didn't surge to the polls for them.

Trump proved that lying like crazy, but giving the impression that he is going to act energetically, DOES cause people to vote for you, especially when your opponents have mindlessly adopted your own failed strategy of years past.




No blowhard !! Here's the facts ...

You can't get stoners and lazy losers up off the couch to vote !! And that's who the Democrats are ...

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Laughing my Ossoff.....

Priceless.........



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TRUMP'S VICTORY LAP: President calls latest GOP wins rebuke of Democrats' obstruction

PRESIDENT TRUMP and his allies cheered Republican Karen Handel's victory Tuesday in the closely watched Georgia runoff as a clear endorsement of the administration's agenda -- and cast Democrats' special election losing streak as a rebuke of the party's "obstruction" tactics.

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Know your role, libbys.

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Know your role, libbys.

Take a seat, we'll call you when we need you.


And that will be after the next time Republicans engage in criminal dealings like Iran/contra, the Franklin sex scandal, the savings and loan scandal, stealing elections, launching a false-flag attack upon America, lying America into a multi-trillion dollar war resulting in the deaths of a million Iraqis and thousands of Americans.

Indeed, liberalism is always ready, willing and eager to come to the rescue of the Republicans at exactly those moments when the Republican's crimes against the America people should have left them dead and buried. Without lots and lots of help from liberalism, the Republicans would no longer be around.



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and one more fact; Price won the seat by 23 percentage points in 2016.


You should realize that wining by 2 points is demonstrating republicans are losing ground in one of the most corrupt districts in the country!

Your bragging is lagging!

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And MSNBC is just flat out reporting erroneous data...they seem to think that Ossoff has a 2 point lead???



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As I woke up this morning, radio AM910 was congratulating the Dems for their "almost" victory in Georgia 6th. Yes, they did great, as in the previous election the Dems lost by only 15 points and did much, much better go-around, only losing by 6 points.

The next segment was designated for sports, and the Tigers were taking heat for losing again to Seattle. Final score was 5 to 4 in 10 innings. I remembered the Tigers lost on Monday 6-2. Shouldn't they be congratulated for doing better and "almost" winning?

I guess I just don't understand the inconsistencies of the liberal mind.

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And MSNBC is just flat out reporting erroneous data...they seem to think that Ossoff has a 2 point lead???



At that point Ossoff DID have a 2 point lead. Note the percentage of precincts reporting at 60%. The next report, at 66% precincts reporting showed Handel ahead. The western county (Cobb?) came at 58% for Handel.

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And MSNBC is just flat out reporting erroneous data...they seem to think that Ossoff has a 2 point lead???



Ur forgetting part of that segment tho! She pointed out there was a corrupt guy that used some trump financing to get certain things!



Rachel Maddow Discussion about trump and his business dealing pre-presidential run! Enjoy!

Hope mueller finds this out too! The treasury department should help him out too!

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by Daniel Nussbaum20 Jun 20173295
Hollywood celebrities took to Twitter Tuesday night to vent after Democrat Jon Ossoff lost Georgia’s Sixth District special congressional election to Republican challenger Karen Handel.

Celebrities who donated time and money to Ossoff’s campaign, including actresses Alyssa Milano and Rosie O’Donnell, used their social media accounts to react to the Democrat’s loss shortly after the election results were confirmed late Tuesday night.

Milano, who personally drove voters to the polls in April’s preliminary election and was actively campaigning for the Democrat for most of Election Day, tweeted simply: “Grouphug” and “Get in.”

Meanwhile, electronic music producer Moby and vocal Trump critic O’Donnell appeared to be frustrated by the results, with Moby questioning how Democratic “still can’t win” even with “buffoon” Donald Trump in the White House. O’Donnell tweeted: “DONALD TRUMP IS THE DARKNESS ITSELF.”

As Breitbart News previously reported, Ossoff’s loss marked a stunning rejection of Hollywood by Georgia voters. Several celebrities, including Milano, Samuel L. Jackson, and John Leguizamo, donated time and money to the Democrat’s campaign in what became an expensive and closely-watched race and a de facto referendum on President’s Trump’s tenure in office thus far.

Below, find more celebrity reaction to the results of Georgia’s special congressional election:

~GROUPHUG~
get in.

— Alyssa Milano (@Alyssa_Milano) June 21, 2017

Seriously, #trump is a corrupt, ignorant buffoon with record low approval ratings and democrats still can't win?
Hey democrats: STOP BEING … pic.twitter.com/4xOpKMa3D8

— moby X?X (@thelittleidiot) June 21, 2017

Karen Handel is homophobic. She's a terrible person, a slowly-but-surely dying symbol of the past. https://t.co/hUNCUz5BpT

— billy eichner (@billyeichner) June 21, 2017

Misspelled 'lying.' https://t.co/MoLLlrWV6p

— Jeffrey Wright (@jfreewright) June 21, 2017

DONALD TRUMP IS THE DARKNESS ITSELF #resistNOW https://t.co/OXm41eEjvD

— ROSIE (@Rosie) June 21, 2017

That's so hard to process, Joy. https://t.co/xJwl5fVtei

— Debra Messing (@DebraMessing) June 21, 2017

She's a ridiculous obscenity of a candidate. Great work Georgia. Now complain that you've elected an unqualified cracker.

— Willie Garson (@WillieGarson) June 21, 2017

Each race we're closing the gap. We're forcing the GOP to defend.
We will win in the long run.
Perseverance.
Patience.
Passion.
2018#Resist

— Beau Willimon (@BeauWillimon) June 21, 2017

A very strong effort by Jon @Ossoff in #GA06 today. #TeamOssoff and all the voters and activists there should be proud. Onward to 2018.

— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) June 21, 2017



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Major legislation passed since trump took office:

None


Travel ban still held in courts, tax reform! Nope can't get tax cut bill disguised as a healthcare bill passed. They think they can rush it thru before 4th of July recess!

Infrastructure and "the wall?" Who the hell knows trumps to busy whining about the Russia probe and not letting mueller do his job! Gingrich is whining about mueller guys and democratic donations while ironically for years trump gave millions in campaign donations to democrats including shumer!

Way to go trumpster and this bullshit in your campaign about how we're gone be "sick" of all this winning! So far NO WINS for the basket of deplorables!



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So it isn't true and never happened. Got it!


It's a study by a prof. in, I believe, NJ.
He said up to 5.7 mil. illegals MAY have voted in the 2008 election.


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Trump Vindicated? Study Shows Up To 5.7 Million Illegals Voted In Presidential Election.



here ya go....
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Millions Of Illegal Immigrants Likely Voted For Barack Obama

This is clearly illegal.By Randy DeSoto
on June 20, 2017 at 1:34pm

A newly released report concludes that non-citizens voting illegally in recent United States elections could number in the millions, giving credence to President Donald Trump’s claims.

According to the think tank Just Facts, as many as 5.7 million illegal aliens may have voted in the 2008 election, in which Barack Obama defeated John McCain to win the presidency, The Washington Times reported.

The organization describes itself as “conservative/libertarian in our personal viewpoints — but unlike many policy and media organizations — Just Facts is committed to objectivity, and we do not favor facts that support our viewpoints.”

Just Facts’ president, James Agresti, told The Times that his researchers looked at data from the Census Bureau and other groups, as well as Harvard/YouGov studies from the 2008 and 2012 elections to help reach their conclusions.

The group cites three sources — the Department of Homeland Security, Pew Research and the Center for Migration Studies — for estimates of the number of illegal immigrants currently in the country, which is likely in excess of 11 million.

In 2008, a Harvard/YouGov survey found that eight percent of self-declared non-citizens stated that “I definitely voted,” and of those who voted, 82 percent cast their ballot for Barack Obama. Based on census data, the resulting numbers mean that somewhere between 594,000 and 5.7 million non-citizens voted illegally in 2008, according to Just Facts.

In 2012, nine percent of illegal immigrants reported they “definitely voted,” translating to between 1.2 and 3.6 million votes in that year’s national election.

The numbers have not been calculated for the 2016 race, but the results of 2008 and 2012 lend credence to President Trump’s claims that he may well have won the popular vote if those who voted illegally were excluded.

In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2016

Hillary Clinton was able to run up the score in the popular vote, so to speak, thanks to California’s approximately 40 million residents.

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Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes


President Trump has promised to find those responsible for disclosing sensitive information. But getting to the bottom of who is behind the leaks may be easier said than done. Leak investigations generally start by process of elimination, and the more people who had access to the leaked information, the trickier it is to pinpoint the source, say former FBI officials and government secrecy experts. (AP Photo/Luca Bruno)
President Trump has promised to find those responsible for disclosing sensitive information. But getting to the bottom of who is behind the leaks may be easier said than done. Leak investigations generally start by process of elimination, and the more ... more >

By Rowan Scarborough - The Washington Times - Monday, June 19, 2017

A research group in New Jersey has taken a fresh look at postelection polling data and concluded that the number of noncitizens voting illegally in U.S. elections is likely far greater than previous estimates.

As many as 5.7 million noncitizens may have voted in the 2008 election, which put Barack Obama in the White House.

The research organization Just Facts, a widely cited, independent think tank led by self-described conservatives and libertarians, revealed its number-crunching in a report on national immigration.

Just Facts President James D. Agresti and his team looked at data from an extensive Harvard/YouGov study that every two years questions a sample size of tens of thousands of voters. Some acknowledge they are noncitizens and are thus ineligible to vote.

Just Facts’ conclusions confront both sides in the illegal voting debate: those who say it happens a lot and those who say the problem nonexistent.

In one camp, there are groundbreaking studies by professors at Old Dominion University in Virginia who attempted to compile scientifically derived illegal voting numbers using the Harvard data, called the Cooperative Congressional Election Study.

On the other side are the professors who conducted the study and contended that “zero” noncitizens of about 18 million adults in the U.S. voted. The liberal mainstream media adopted this position and proclaimed the Old Dominion work was “debunked.”

The ODU professors, who stand by their work in the face of attacks from the left, concluded that in 2008 as few as 38,000 and as many as 2.8 million noncitizens voted.

Mr. Agresti’s analysis of the same polling data settled on much higher numbers. He estimated that as many as 7.9 million noncitizens were illegally registered that year and 594,000 to 5.7 million voted.

These numbers are more in line with the unverified estimates given by President Trump, who said the number of ballots cast by noncitizens was the reason he lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton.

Last month, the president signed an executive order setting up a commission to try to find on-the-ground truth in illegal voting. Headed by Vice President Mike Pence, the panel also will look at outdated voter lists across the nation with names of dead people and multiple registrants.

For 2012, Just Facts said, 3.2 million to 5.6 million noncitizens were registered to vote and 1.2 million to 3.6 million of them voted.

Mr. Agresti lays out his reasoning in a series of complicated calculations, which he compares to U.S. Census Bureau figures for noncitizen residents. Polls show noncitizens vote overwhelmingly Democratic.

“The details are technical, but the figure I calculated is based on a more conservative margin of sampling error and a methodology that I consider to be more accurate,” Mr. Agresti told The Washington Times.

He believes the Harvard/YouGov researchers based their “zero” claim on two flawed assumptions. First, they assumed that people who said they voted and identified a candidate did not vote unless their names showed up in a database.

“This is illogical, because such databases are unlikely to verify voters who use fraudulent identities, and millions of noncitizens use them,” Mr. Agresti said.

He cites government audits that show large numbers of noncitizens use false IDs and Social Security numbers in order to function in the U.S., which could include voting.

Second, Harvard assumed that respondent citizens sometimes misidentified themselves as noncitizens but also concluded that noncitizens never misidentified themselves as citizens, Mr. Agresti said.

“This is irrational, because illegal immigrants often claim they are citizens in order to conceal the fact that they are in the U.S. illegally,” he said.

Some of the polled noncitizens denied they were registered to vote when publicly available databases show that they were, he said.

This conclusion, he said, is backed by the Harvard/YouGov study’s findings of consumer and vote data matches for 90 percent of participants but only 41 percent of noncitizen respondents.

As to why his numbers are higher than the besieged ODU professors’ study, Mr. Agresti said: “I calculated the margin of sampling error in a more cautious way to ensure greater confidence in the results, and I used a slightly different methodology that I think is more accurate.”

There is hard evidence outside of polling that noncitizens do vote. Conservative activists have conducted limited investigations in Maryland and Virginia that found thousands of aliens were registered.

These inquiries, such as comparing noncitizen jury pool rejections to voter rolls, captured just a snapshot. But conservatives say they show there is a much broader problem that a comprehensive probe by the Pence commission could uncover.

The Public Interest Legal Foundation, which fights voter fraud, released one of its most comprehensive reports last month.

Its investigation found that Virginia removed more than 5,500 noncitizens from voter lists, including 1,852 people who had cast more than 7,000 ballots. The people volunteered their status, most likely when acquiring driver’s licenses. The Public Interest Legal Foundation said there are likely many more illegal voters on Virginia’s rolls who have never admitted to being noncitizens.

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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=antifa

Middle-class champagne socialist/communist/anarchist white boys who don't like nationalists or fascists. They consider themselves to be rebelling against the establishment, whilst upholding all of its ultra-politically correct views.

Antifa only dislike racism when its carried out by whites, and do not have the bottle to stand up against anti-white racism; leading to many people on the right to refer to them as 'traitors'. I'd rather just call them morons.

Most are teenagers and university students who grow out of the fad when they start paying taxes.

Antifa is stupid.

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The Democrats spent an enormous amount of money trying to defeat Hanel in Georgia, but STILL lost. How embarrassing for the New Communist Party USA.

Dems go into meltdown mode as Handel defeats Ossoff.: https://www.prisonplanet.com/referendum-on-donald-trump-ends-in-humiliating-defeat-for-leftists.html

‘Laughing My Ossoff’.: https://www.prisonplanet.com/kellyanne-conway-celebrates-humiliating-democrat-defeat.html

Louie

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Quote from louie6332:
The Democrats spent an enormous amount of money trying to defeat Hanel in Georgia, but STILL lost. How embarrassing for the New Communist Party USA.

Dems go into meltdown mode as Handel defeats Ossoff.: https://www.prisonplanet.com/referendum-on-donald-trump-ends-in-humiliating-defeat-for-leftists.html

‘Laughing My Ossoff’.: https://www.prisonplanet.com/kellyanne-conway-celebrates-humiliating-democrat-defeat.html

Louie


Quite obviously, the Democrats are a capitalist party, consisting of rich capitalist politicians who were funded into power by even richer capitalists and whose every major policy passed when holding political power is a boon for the super-rich capitalists.

The American people are actually abandoning their belief in capitalism. There is no mass public support for the imperialist wars of capitalism, tax cuts for rich capitalists, and the f**king over of the population regarding health care so that rich capitalists can make more money while collecting even more tax cuts for themselves. There's no massive public support for an increased police-state. There's no massive public support for Obamacaring the public school system. And yet, those are the policies of both the Republicans and the Democrats.

What the Democrats are selling is the same disgusting, everything-for-the-super-rich, warmongering, police-state, right-wing program as the Republicans. As a result, the decent members of society are abandoning the Democrats as being utterly useless, while the dregs and deplorables of society are eagerly coming out to vote for their beloved Republicans. That's why, despite the fact that the population is overwhelmingly working-class (i.e., leftist), the far-right is winning elections.

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Quote from juma2112:
It's a study by a prof. in, I believe, NJ.
He said up to 5.7 mil. illegals MAY have voted in the 2008 election.


Typical of a fake scholar, to make claims without citation.

Some prof in Colorado I think, says your a lazy fool for believing some prof in NJ.

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Typical of a fake scholar, to make claims without citation.

Some prof in Colorado I think, says your a lazy fool for believing some prof in NJ.


Why should I do the work for someone else.
Clarity provided the full article if u care to read it.
U won't.

That's why this is another useless post from a useless person.


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Experts, people that study this shit for a living, have said that no illegals have voted but an interwebs article posted by a horseface on a free dating website by a professor that may or may not exist claim that nearly 6 million might have?





YEAH!! That sounds plausible!



f**kin dillholes...just let this steep in the ole grey matter for a minute...an illegal spends a couple of thousand dollars and, in many cases MONTHS getting to the US, you REALLY believe that they give 2 shits about an election much less risking being caught by voting illegally?

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Quote from juma2112:
Why should I do the work for someone else.
Clarity provided the full article if u care to read it.
U won't.

That's why this is another useless post from a useless person.


If you are going to make a stupid claim it's your responsibility to prove it. Telling me to refer to another moron said is not citing the source.

Yea, you read it in an article but the article probably is from some forum dedicated to keeping you stupid.

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Quote from drwookie:
If you are going to make a stupid claim it's your responsibility to prove it. Telling me to refer to another moron said is not citing the source.

Yea, you read it in an article but the article probably is from some forum dedicated to keeping you stupid.


U mean like when I spoon fed u the laws that give the secret service authority over the Prez on matters of security?
Did u look them up and read them?
Nope. U opted for another moronic, and completely incorrect claim.

Ur a sad pathetic loser, and u make no effort to change. Good luck with that.


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U mean like when I spoon fed u the laws that give the secret service authority over the Prez on matters of security?
Did u look them up and read them?
Nope. U opted for another moronic, and completely incorrect claim.

Ur a sad pathetic loser, and u make no effort to change. Good luck with that.



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Kellyanne Conway Triggers Libturds Devastated By Ossoff’s Defeat
June 21, 2017
ConservativeLiberalPoliticsSocial MediaTrump33 Comments1 min read
Kellyanne Conway’s series of tweets celebrating Republican Georgian House candidate Karen Handel’s victory is not going over well with liberals online, who have promptly attacked her.

As reported previously, Democratic candidate Jon Ossoff’s defeat came in spite of millions in campaign funds and support from celebrities as varied as Sarah Silverman and Samuel Jackson.

According to NBC News, Democrats billed the standoff between Ossoff and Handel “as a referendum on the president,” vowing to prove how strong opposition to him was by winning in a traditionally Republican district.

Kellyanne Conway took those words and fired them right back at Democrats in an epic troll tweet.

Thanks to everyone who breathlessly and snarkily proclaimed #GA06 as a "referendum on POTUS @realDonaldTrump".

You were right. #winning

— Kellyanne Conway (@KellyannePolls) June 21, 2017

Very quickly, the butt hurt fellows appeared.

We all lose with Trump.

— DOH (@DOH) June 21, 2017

And to everyone who snarkily proclaimed no Russia investigation, also winning and flynning, too. Referendums are good.

— Amy Cosper (@AmyCCosper) June 21, 2017

Just Georgia, Potus has a 36% approval.

— Kate (@KathleenKenny13) June 21, 2017

way to stay classy @KellyannePolls ????

— DE Mom (@Momof2inDE) June 21, 2017

If by winning you mean everyone is getting a lawyer, then yes, you're winning!

— Count Dante (@countdante67) June 21, 2017

Conway wasn’t done with the triggering yet, though; shortly afterwards, she posted this and triggered people yet again.

Laughing my #Ossoff

— Kellyanne Conway (@KellyannePolls) June 21, 2017

That's because you're a vile, scornful woman.

— Joe Papp (@joepabike) June 21, 2017

You are proud that the anti-gay candidate won? Once again Kellyanne, thank you for showing women all over what its like not to be empowered.

— Danny Deraney (@DannyDeraney) June 21, 2017

Because you love when bigotry wins? You're pathetic.

— David Joshua (@davidjelizondo) June 21, 2017

You work at the White House, show some class.

— Cody Johnston (@drmistercody) June 21, 2017

Why are you so full of hatred?

— Susan McPherson (@susanmcp1) June 21, 2017

Keep laughing because all of us will be laughing AT you when your UNPOPULAR boss gets hauled off to the Big House

— Ted Micka (@TedMicka) June 21, 2017

I've said it before & I'll say it again, you're a horrible human.
No class, no integrity, no compassion.
You're rotten to the core.

— Kaj-Erik Eriksen (@KajEriksen) June 21, 2017

You're a soulless sack of bones. When you die Satan will greet you with open arms.

— Sean Kent (@seankent) June 21, 2017

Unnecessary partisan rhetoric, Kellyanne. Hypocritical given your outrage with the “left” following the congressional shooting.

— Cait Harding (@cait_harding) June 21, 2017

She still wasn’t done triggering people yet, though.

[email protected] thanks for standing strong, for running on issues, for being a grownup and for living in the district.

Welcome to Congress. https://t.co/NOcZIHOKwW

— Kellyanne Conway (@KellyannePolls) June 21, 2017

Running on hate and ignorance. Congrats.

— Julie Mark (@indthinkers) June 21, 2017

Show some class.

— Megan Walsh (@magseb) June 21, 2017

One more monster added to the dysfunctional #Trump swamp.

— gap (@gperry70) June 21, 2017

Go ahead and gloat while you can. We just made you burn $20M in PAC money on a "safe" seat. The tide will turn soon enough.

— Mike Sayre (@uShootIScore) June 21, 2017

Oh…you've been let out of your box?
Was it to incite this nonsense?
Go back into the dark & lonely box.
You've got about 6 weeks left ????????????

— Sharon Bowen (@Sharon_Bowen59) June 21, 2017

It's called democracy. I know you Russian traitors don't understand. Congrats Ossoff on staying American rather than oppression

— Brian Kennedy (@Kennetron) June 21, 2017

Source:
NBC News

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Quote from clarity101:
eight percent of self-declared non-citizens stated


That little piece right there is why it's an unreliable study. That and the fact that we are supposed to trust the word of alleged non citizens in regards to whether or not thay actually voted. No one took names, they just believed what people they interviewed told them.

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That little piece right there is why it's an unreliable study. That and the fact that we are supposed to trust the word of alleged non citizens in regards to whether or not thay actually voted. No one took names, they just believed what people they interviewed told them.


So if u had to bet, did illegals vote in large numbers or not?


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Illegals have been known to naively believe that are allowed to vote because it asks if they would like to register on the DMV driver license application. I could see how they might think that. And then if asked, "admit" they voted. Because they did it innocemtly not millions and millions though.